In the first segment, Jenn and Daren spotlight the intersection of Black Music Appreciation Month and how much of a tragedy it is that we will never “know know” the truth about Luther Vandross.
In the second segment, Jenn and Daren share their own experiences of how they came to understand and accept their queerness.
In the third segment, Jenn and Daren tease Jenn’s appearances on the new Discovery+ show The Book of Queer.
Podcast Summary:
This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren discuss the current threats to Roe v. Wade and how the confrontation between Will Smith and Chris Rock at the Oscars brought discussions around toxic masculinity to the forefront.
In the second segment, they bring up a range of current examples of toxic (Black) masculinity including Kevin Samuels and Tory Lanez.
In the third segment, Jenn and Daren give a preview of their next episode that will be all about critiquing the Black middle class.
Reference Material:
* Everything We Know About The Megan Thee Stallion and Tory Lanez Shootign Investigation – https://www.vulture.com/article/tory-lanez-megan-thee-stallion-shooting-explainer.html
* Taking his advice was like ‘chewing broken glass’: the short life of dating guru Kevin Samuels – https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/may/13/relationship-guru-kevin-samuels-life-death
* BBB Issues Warning Against Darius ‘Cooks’ Williams, Celebrity Chef Accused Of Having Fraudulent Business Practices – https://blavity.com/bbb-issues-warning-against-darius-cooks-williams-celebrity-chef-accused-of-having-fraudulent-business?category1=news
Podcast Summary:
This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren celebrate the landmark confirmation of Ketanji Brown Jackson to the U.S. Supreme Court and the burden that she will need to bear as a result.
In the second segment, they discuss why celebrating “firsts” for Black people can be complex and problematic and ask if the “race for firsts” is even a good thing for Black people.
In the third segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on the conversation and explain why we need to shift the conversation to interrogate what we mean by a “win”, divorcing value from white-centered ideals to defining and centering independent Black excellence.
Reference Material:
* “The History Lesson About Black Women That You Never Got” – Jenn M. Jackson https://www.teenvogue.com/story/the-history-lesson-about-black-women-that-you-never-got
* “I’ll be so proud when my daughter is president and runs a corrupt oligarchy” – Kiese Laymon – https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/22/daughter-us-president-corrupt-oligarchy
* Viola Davis Gives Powerful Speech About Diversity and Opportunity | Emmys 2015 – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSpQfvd_zkE&ab_channel=TelevisionAcademy
Podcast Summary:
This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren share their current favorite things, including PJ Morton and JoJo’s new song “My Peace” and the Peacock show “Bel-Air.”
In the second segment, they talk through how Kim and Kanye’s divorce shows that stalking and harassment are never OK, why everybody needs to stay up to date on the war in Ukraine, and how people’s issues with Rihanna’s pregnancy are another example of how Black women are treated like products instead of people.
In the third segment, Jenn and Daren give a preview of what they’ll be discussing for Women’s History Month in their next episode, including phenomenal Black women like Audrey Lorde, bell hooks, and author Zakiya Dalila Harris.
Reference Material:
* Episode 26: Why We Aren’t Rooting For Everybody Black
* Episode 7: #MentalHealthMatters
*iamlegallyhype on TikTok
https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdAePGpN/
* Episode 4: “Pretty Pregnancy” and Unrealistic Expectations for Black Pregnant People
* Peacock’s “Bel-Air”
https://www.peacocktv.com/stream-tv/bel-air
* PJ Morton & JoJo (feat. Mr. Talkbox) – My Peace
Podcast Summary:
This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren highlight the recent increase in Black deaths from suicide and why it is imperative that we seek healing in 2022.
In the second segment, they discuss bell hooks’s book Sisters of the Yam, talk through the troubling statistics around Black mental health, and share their “4 Steps to Moving as a Healing Black Person in 2022”.
In the third segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on their own mental health journeys and explain why it is so important that we support each other while hold each other accountable.
Reference Material:
* #ThatBlackCouple Ep 7 – #MentalHealthMatters
* #ThatBlackCouple Ep 30 – Black Healing and Trauma During COVID-19
* Black men’s mental health matters – American Psychological Association
https://www.apa.org/monitor/2021/09/ce-black-mental-health
* Mental Health Disparities: Diverse Populations – American Psychiatric Association
https://www.psychiatry.org/psychiatrists/cultural-competency/education/mental-health-facts
* Results from the 2019 National Survey on Drug Use and Health – Center for Behavioral Health Statistics and Quality, Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration
https://www.samhsa.gov/data/sites/default/files/reports/rpt29393/2019NSDUHFFRPDFWHTML/2019NSDUHFFR1PDFW090120.pdf
Podcast Summary:
This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.
Jenn and Daren start season 3 of That Black Couple with a rundown episode covering some of the hottest topics of the month.
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren share what has been on their minds like the little known long-term success of recent chart topper Muni Long (Hrs And Hrs), the merits of white on white violence in HBO’s Euphoria, why they’d both rather have a “sex tape” go public than a “spit tape”.
In the second segment, they explain why celebrity divorces can be a “good’ thing and why the losses of legends like bell hooks, Betty White, and Thich Nhat Hanh show us how important it is to respect and honor people while they still walk the earth.
Reference Material:
* Caught on Video: Pastor Mike Todd Wipes Spit on Church Member’s Face
https://www.theroot.com/caught-on-video-pastor-mike-todd-wipes-spit-on-church-1848376773
* Catalog of the over 100 songs Muni Long (Priscilla Renea) has written for artists like Rihanna, Mariah Carey, and Ariana Grande
https://artists.spotify.com/songwriter/53bxaIXxhpUg3mlsLSMWad
* HBO’s Euphoria
https://www.hbo.com/euphoria
* The TERRELL One Million Show
* The TERRELL One Million Show (Album) https://open.spotify.com/album/3cAgKKxhswmZu3t8OC8Hr1?si=R6ePXDeUTzW4kvNY3cvvOQ&nd=1
Podcast Summary:
This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.
Jenn and Daren close out the season looking back at how far they’ve come in the 5 years that they’ve been creating the That Black Couple podcast and announce what listeners have to look forward to in 2022.
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk about what changes you can expect in season 3 of TBC. All of the graphics will be getting a facelift, and they will be altering the structure of the episodes.
In the second segment, they discuss their other business ventures, all held under their umbrella company Colored Convos Media. This will include a new newsletter, the forthcoming literary magazine Water Cooler Literary, and a brand new website for Colored Convos Media.
In the final segment, Jenn and Daren remind all of their listeners that they will be bigger, better, badder, blacker and “blam blammer” in 2022!
Episodes for reference:
* Episode 31 – The Looking Back Episode: Our Favorite Moments in the First 2 Seasons
Podcast Summary:
This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren laugh their way through their favorite drags of the first 2 seasons, focusing on what makes Kenya Barris’s shows tick and why white people should be cleaning up after Octavia Spencer for the rest of her life.
In the second segment, they discuss their favorite intellectual moments of the first 2 seasons from the “Millennials and Interracial Dating” and “Black Sleep Matters” episodes. They delve into the challenges of being the Black person in an interracial couple and how important sleep is for Black people in particular.
In the third segment, Jenn and Daren highlight their favorite episodes so far, “The Erasure of Black Women’s Work” and “Do Good Work and Don’t Be Trash”, two can’t miss episodes that explain why it’s so important to give proper credit for Black women’s labor and to walk through life with integrity.
Episodes for reference:
* Episode 26: Why We Aren’t Rooting For Everybody Black
Podcast Summary:
This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.
In the first segment “First Things First,” Jenn and Daren talk about how important it is to take lessons from the past year or two since COVID-19. For Black people, this time has shown us exactly how anti-Black and white supremacist these institutions are and how they often harm Black life.
In the second segment, “The Conversation,” Daren shares the data about the increased vulnerability of Black folx and other people of color during the COVID-19 crisis. Jenn explains how this disproportionate marginalization must be addressed through healing justice for ourselves and our communities.
In the third segment, “The Reflection,” Jenn and Daren share what they have been doing to practice healing and self-care in their own lives.
Articles for Reference:
* #ThatBlackCouple Ep 20 – Black Sleep Matters:
* Why Black And Latino People Still Lag On COVID Vaccines — And How To Fix It:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/04/26/989962041/why-black-and-latino-people-still-lag-on-covid-vaccines-and-how-to-fix-it
* In Palm Beach, Covid-19 vaccines intended for rural Black communities are instead going to wealthy white Floridians:
* THE COLOR OF CORONAVIRUS:
COVID-19 DEATHS BY RACE AND ETHNICITY IN THE U.S.:
https://www.apmresearchlab.org/covid/deaths-by-race
* COVID-19 Health Equity Interactive Dashboard: https://covid19.emory.edu/
Annals of Epidemiology: Assessing differential impacts of COVID-19 on Black communities study led by Gregorio Millett at amfAR (Foundation for AIDS Research):
https://www.elsevier.com/connect/atlas/assessing-covid-19s-impact-on-black-communities
* Black Americans say coronavirus has hit hard financially, but impact varies by education level, age:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/05/12/black-americans-say-coronavirus-has-hit-hard-financially-but-impact-varies-by-education-level-age/?amp=1
* The COVID Tracking Project’s The COVID Racial Data Tracker:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/health-equity/race-ethnicity.html
Podcast Summary:
This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.
